I had a thought as part of my last post.

It seems that I have read about subjects gaining a new fetish that they never realized existed. Some even claim that their hypnotist created this fetish and they never had it in the past.

Naturally this begs the question: Is it possible to "create" a fetish through hypnosis or is it more of an awakening of a dormant fetish rather than a creation?

Kitty

Post edited by: cyberkitty, at: 2007/06/30 13:00

I'd say it really comes down to semantics more than anything.

When you discover something new, that grows into a fetish, it's you that make those changes where it becomes a fetish. A hypnotist isn't going to create a fetish, no more than a hypnotist can make you do something against your will.

A hypnotist could be credited with helping you discover a fetish, or introducing you to it, but the fetish in my mind, is all yours.

Cheers,
Weaver

That's true but what about something that maybe is somewhat a turn off to begin with but through a period of time working with a hypnotist turns into a fetish? Is that possible?

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That's true but what about something that maybe is somewhat a turn off to begin with but through a period of time working with a hypnotist turns into a fetish? Is that possible?
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My humble opinion (or not so humble as the case may be) how would it be any different that overcoming a phobia, fear, or aversion to an item, action, etc.

It would be no different (using an example with out hypnosis) would be beer. Typically the first time someone tastes beer, there isn't an outpouring of love for it. It tends to be an acquired tasted over time.

Is it possible? Sure, but is it the hypnotist that is making the change or is it the subject that is making the change? It's just a shift of change of one's own perception.

For example, I rock climb. Most people would consider that a very dangerous activity (according to their perception), whilst, with the partner that I do climb with, we consider is an extraordinary safe activity (safer than walking downtown in a big city.) Other people that we have brought along, at first considered it dangerous, they just wanted to watch (or they had hopes of gore-gawking, I'm not sure which <lol>, but their perception changed and after a bit, they didn't view it as dangerous as they first thought.

So was it myself and my partner that "made" that change in the third? Or did the third look at new data and make their own changes?

Clearly, it is the latter. Hypnosis is a tool, nothing more. With hypnosis, if there isn't that desire for change, there *won't* be the change on the subjects part.

So in the end, does/can a hypnotist create a fetish? Nope. What a hypnotist can do, is provide the environment where the subject is able to look at the "turn off" in a safe and controlled environment, where the subject can then review their own perceptions on it. A hypnotist is nothing more that just a facilitator, the subject makes those changes/choices, not the hypnotist.

Cheers,
Weaver

Post edited by: sleep_weaver, at: 2007/07/18 02:48

Very good point and way of explaining it. I've felt it were possible, but never made the phobia connection, I think that drives it home fairly well.

I also know what you mean by the adventure sports, for those who know what they are doing, they understand how to mitigate the risks sufficiently to the point where much of the danger is removed. It's those who try it not knowing what they are doing that causes most accidents.

Maybe the same sort of thing for hypnosis, someone who doesn't know what they doing causes someone else maybe to feel like they are missing the boat, or maybe even the other way around?

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Very good point and way of explaining it. I've felt it were possible, but never made the phobia connection, I think that drives it home fairly well.

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I also know what you mean by the adventure sports, for those who know what they are doing, they understand how to mitigate the risks sufficiently to the point where much of the danger is removed. It's those who try it not knowing what they are doing that causes most accidents.

Perception and how we perceive things is what it really comes down to. We all see things through our own "glasses" which have been created by the experiences we have encountered in life. Depending on what the experiences are, and what lessons we learn from them (lessons learned can be both detrimental or benificial) but at the same time we can unlearn the detrimental lesson(s) and relearn a more beneficial lesson.

Maybe the same sort of thing for hypnosis, someone who doesn't know what they doing causes someone else maybe to feel like they are missing the boat, or maybe even the other way around?

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That exactly how it comes down to how our perceptions are formed by our life experiences. With hypnosis, the experiences can go both ways, for both the subject and the hypnotist. If the perception is the stereotypical Hollywood where the subject is the mindless zombie, and this is what a subject is expecting, they are going to feel like they are missing the boat.

Cheers,
Weaver

There are so many things that people have perceptions of that of course extend well beyond the world of hypnosis, or do they? I believe that both hypnosis and mind control are a significant part of everyone's day.

There are so many different tangents I could take this discussion, I'll resist, but I do feel that most anything is possible when dealing with minds and thoughts.

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There are so many things that people have perceptions of that of course extend well beyond the world of hypnosis, or do they? I believe that both hypnosis and mind control are a significant part of everyone's day.

There are so many different tangents I could take this discussion, I'll resist, but I do feel that most anything is possible when dealing with minds and thoughts.

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So true. Hypnosis is just a tool that can be very effective when dealing with the mind or thoughts. NLP could be considered a different, yet very effective tool when dealing with the mind and thoughts.

With all the language that is used in speeches, news reporting, advertising, watching TV or a movie, we are really never that far away from it at all. Like it or not, it is a part of everyones day.

So many tangents. That can be a good thing or a bad thing, but personally, I'm enjoying the conversation So tangent away

Hello, I'm new to the channel so hopelessy out of sych with this conversation.

That said I think hypnosis builds on desires - even vehemently suppressed desires - and can help bring them into the open.

I can recall vivid child imaginings of submission to other girls. By age 11 I had begun secret dressing in lingerie. I eventually married - in my 50's now - and discovered IRC Chat at age 42. My sole interest was dominant Females. If a male sought to talk I'd freak. Eventually a woman suggested she was not sure I was as averse to males as I behaved. I eventually began listening to very intense sissy oriented files on the WMM website.

Today I can only think of men; I fel like my desire is a bottomless abyss of need and i see my submissiveness and hunger making for eager suggestibility.

It's been a mysterious journey of self discovery, and it continues.

stacey sissy